SiCKO
Watched, World August 21st, 2007So Tim and I watched SiCKO the day before yesterday. I actually really wanted to see it, as I’ve seen clips of it online, and even though I’m not American, it does concern me to know how the health care system is over there.
And it seems absolutely ATROCIOUS. At one point, one of the Senators were doing his impassioned parliamentary speech on some sort of deregulation of drugs bill for senior citizens, said something along the lines of “I *love* my mother just as much as any of you love YOUR mothers!!!” And Tim pointed out, that he never said that he loved OUR mothers. And that’s kinda the crux of the mentality that drives private health care. Everyone is out for themselves (and their family) and not for each other.
The movie does seem to present the health care system of Canada, England, Cuba and France a little too positively, but there were practical time restraints for that. No health care system is perfect, but I strongly believe that universal health care is a gzillion times better than private health care. Good universal health care IS expensive mind you, and these countries (and Australia’s!) pay heaps of tax, depending on how much you earn. I have no problems with the idea of paying more tax if you earn more. It makes me happy to know that at least part of it is going to someone who needs it. Capitalist mentality would all be like “you should do whatever with what you earn! It’s YOURS!” That kinda ties in with what one of my clever economics friend told me recently. Lowering tax means that people would spend more money. Spending more money would mean that inflation goes up which means the interest rates for housing goes up. While this might be a simplification of the issue, it nonetheless sounds like a lose-lose situation.
I looked up what critics of the movie said and here’s two gems I found.
- SiCKO mentioned that in the WHO report of the quality of health care globally, America does amazing poorly. One critic said,
“The WHO report doesn’t just rank health care systems according to how well they cure you when you’re sick. Indeed, 25% of the WHO report’s scoring is based on the “fairness” of a country’s health care financing as measured by how redistributionist - socialist - it is.”
Oh noes! A criteria based on the FAIRNESS of how health care is distributed! That’s… bad? What do people have against socialism anyway? Why is the idea of helping someone in need such an oddly feared and hated idea? Does 1950s propaganda about communism and socialism still effective to this day? Jesus Christ, freaking out over a socialist criteria is not a problem with the criteria, but with your paranoia about socialism.
- One thing that SiCKO failed to mention was that in places with universal health care, one common down side is waiting time. For non-emergency dental work, my grandparents here had to wait months on the list. I hear horror stories on our news of patients dying because they had to wait too long. And that DOES freaking suck. That’s a problem with the availability of resources though at the institutionalised level It might freaking suck to have to wait for months/years for something but at least you would eventually get it. If you’re poor in a system with private health care… you’ll never get it. As claimed by this critic:
“Browning tells the tale of Lindsay McCreith, a retired body shop owner from Ontario who was forced to wait four months for an MRI to determine whether he had a brain tumor. Banned by Canadian law from seeking private care, he finally got the MRI in Buffalo, New York, whereupon he discovered that the tumor was indeed real. But he still needed surgery. In Canada, he would have been required to wait six to eight months — by which time the tumor might have proved fatal. In the United States, he got surgery within a week.”
Note the convenient use of the word “got”. If you’ve got PLENTY of money, of course private health care would be awesome. You’ll be set back however many tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars that you have lying around anyway, but hey no waiting! In a system with only a limited amount of resources, if you’ve made more money than the guy next to you, you DESERVE to get better more right? We’re all worth according to how much is in our bank account and stock portfolio right?
It seems to me that in a capitalistic system with private health care, there’s no intrinsic human rights, the market tells you how much you are worth and subsequently, what rights you get. That friggin’ sucks. Universal health care at least has its heart in the right place, although the practical lack of resources (money, trained professionals, etc) make it seem like an imperfect system with sometimes tragic results. As a system though, I don’t see how that’s possibly worse than private health insurance.
I think most people that see these sort of documentaries would generally come out pretty glum. What can WE do about it? We’re not in Parliament, making the decisions, or a CEO of an insurance company. But as that British guy in the movie said, what people have is the power to vote. Governments love to keep people apathetic, frightened, poor, demoralised and cynical about what change they themselves can make. That makes people easy to control. But if people are aware of the changes they can make, if they go vote for policies that would affect their lives, all this can change.
But then again… I say this with a liberal dose of sad idealism. There’s just too many people out there who ARE cynics of government, who work three jobs a week to keep a family together and food on the table. Why would they even BEGIN to care about things like health care when they barely know where to find the money to pay the week’s rent?
And completely off-topic: HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO TIM! He turned 22 today. :3
4 Responses to “SiCKO”
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Heh. Happy birthday, Tim!
The problem with SiCKO is that it’s Michael Moore, and though he’s good at getting people worked up about something, he’s not an unbiased source.
That said, I haven’t seen it and don’t plan to. While I agree that our current system doesn’t service the poor as well as I’d like, I also think that if I really wanted to know the problems and solutions to this issue, Michael Moore isn’t the person to call. Plus, shouldn’t my “elected officials” work for me? Speaking of, I think I need to write them letters… seeing as I’m 18 and actually count as a citizen now, I better get my voice out as to what I expect them to do.
I agree and disagree. On one hand, universal health care is a good thing. It allows poor and sick people to get the health care they need without having to worry about getting into tens of thousands of dollars in debt. On the other hand, though, it’s not free: when health care is government-funded, it comes out of your tax dollars, and so people who are young and healthy and who don’t need health care hardly at all end up paying for people who are old or sickly. And I’ve already been screwed over by Social Security. X_x
I guess I don’t really have enough evidence and I haven’t read enough about it to state which one I prefer. I like them both for different reasons. Honestly, I’m quite concerned about the United States’ economic and social programs/situations as it is, though. I’m beginning to just think I have got to get out of here. I’m tired of all the crap here. I swear I’m moving to Canada.
The ironic thing is that America thinks it’s a ‘low tax’ society. It isn’t; it’s actually a relatively highly taxed society due to this horrendously complicated and multi-layered GST system that goes on between the states. I’m not down on all the intricacies myself, but IIRC income tax in America is fairly low, but it’s offset by all the other taxes.
Anyway, not to harp on the same point over and over and sound like a dirty bleeding-heart pinko commie liberal or anything, but logically the U.S. would have to have decent tax reserves; in 2007, for example, the administration requested $2.8 trillion dollars in funding from Congress. In comparison, the 2007-08 estimate for the whole of Medicare here is $18.3 billion. Now you’ll have to excuse the hyper-dodgy maths, but the US has about 15 times the population of Australia. Fifteen times the cost of our Medicare budget is $274.5 billion. This is half of what the US spent on its military in 2007-08.
So it’s not so much that the US can’t afford universal public health care, it’s that it ideologically doesn’t want to.
@Kudarania
That’s the thing, though; it’s not an either-or prospect. You can have both (though that arrangement has problems too, of course; but everything does). So if you can afford private health cover, you can take it and get all your advantages; usually for elective procedures. But if you can’t, then you know you’re unlikely to die of something minor just because you couldn’t afford a hospital bill.
And yes, of course the tax dollars of the young are cross-subsidising the healthcare of the old. I mean, you will be old yourself one day; then all the young people will be cross-subsidising you. Swings and roundabouts, as they say. :)
To Stephanie: I agree, as I said he did gloss over the problems that exist in systems of universal health care. In fact, if you watch the movie, some of the people he interview doesn’t seem representative of the population of that country. Still, I don’t think that in itself should negate what he’s actually arguing. While you might not be inferring that, many people seem to be doing exactly that. And good for you for getting involved in the process! That’s actually better than just watching a film and doing nothing. :P
To Kudarania: Well in our system, we do have a hybrid. We have basic universal health care and private health care for people who want faster access (also, to non-emergency health care like acupuncture and optometrists). However, for people who can’t afford private health care, they don’t live in fear of getting sick as they (and every other citizen in the country) can go to their doctor and get examined and treated for free.
Dee basically already said what I think. I mean, capitalistic culture has kinda put into our heads the idea of “we keep everything that we make” and “if others can’t make the money, they don’t deserve the care”. But well… people are human beings too and sometimes they just need a hand. If I were out of work, sick and unable to work, I’d really wish that someone can help me. I don’t believe that the poor should get taxed as much as the rich of course, but we live in a society with people… it just doesn’t sit right with me to ignore the plight of others just so I can buy a car or a boat.
To Dee: Don’t get me started on the war. -_- All that money… that could’ve gone into health care, education, welfare… *mind reels*